ISKM is expanding in deviations

“One should also not accumulate money to become puffed up in the material world. One should earn his livelihood easily and honestly, for it is better to become a coolie for an honest livelihood than to become a great man in society by hook and crook. There is no harm if one becomes the richest man in the world by honest dealings, but one should not sacrifice the honest means of livelihood simply to accumulate wealth. Such an endeavor is harmful to devotional service. One should not talk nonsense. A devotee’s business is to earn the favor of the Lord.

True Face of Sundar Gopal Dāsa

Sundar Gopal is the founder of ISKM (International Sri Krishna Mandir) and claims to be a rtvik representative with siksa guru-function. But what if it’s true if he wasn’t initiated and given beads through Prabhupadas instructions!? Indeed there is a lot of information who tells a different story of becoming an ISKCON devotee …

This is the letter that ISKM devotees are claiming to be his first initiation letter, given him proper initiation by Srila Prabhupada. But why he stayed and served under first-class deviants for so many years like Hansadutta and Tamal Krishna Swami!? This will be addressed later, first let see if the letter can be verified as true.

Let’s hear from Nalinīkānta Prabhu, who is mentioned in the letter to be the writer:

“I have written several people on this matter.  It was more than 40 years ago.  I cannot attest to the fact that page 1 of that letter was written by me.  The signature on page 2 is mine, but I was not in India in 1977 so the rest of it sounds suspicious.  I certainly, as a typist at the BTG, was not authorized to write Srila Prabhupada and recommend anyone for initiation.

So that’s really let question the authenticity of the letter. In the bio of Sundar Gopal aka Govindasamy Sundar it is claimed:

“Very soon, he received a letter from a devotee named Nalinīkānta Prabhu asking him if he would like to take initiation from Śrīla Prabhupāda. He along with his younger brother replied in the affirmative and in the January of 1977, they were initiated by Śrīla Prabhupāda who was in India at that time. The beads and initiated name were sent by post to Sundar Gopāl Prabhu. He never met Śrīla Prabhupāda but was initiated by him.

But Nalinikantha Prabhu says he wasn’t in India at all at that time! Also it’s not verified by him that the letter was written by him, only the signature is not fake for sure.

The letter is also not verified by sources like Vedabase and online sources from ISKCON but u find references that they preached (foreign ISKCON devotees) in the 70s in Singapore to the general public, distributing books in masses.

If you look up Srila Prabhupada’s original notebooks of his initiated disciples you will also not find a reference that he has received initiation from India in January 1977:

Same with his brother: You don’t find an reference that Sundara Gopala’s brother was initiated.

Also what is striking is that his karmi name is not correctly mentioned as the same with his brother as it is Govindasamy Sundar. The letter has also more faults like only addressing Sundar Gopal without his brother”Dear Sundaraji …” (common for Indians to speak like that) and no date mentioned at all. So it seems the author of the letter is Sundar Gopala himself!

“The word pakhanda used in this verse is sometimes pronounced pasanda. Both of these words indicate an imposter who presents himself as a very religious person but in actuality is sinful. Indra took up the saffron-colored dress as a way of cheating others. This saffron dress has been misused by many imposters who present themselves as liberated persons or incarnations of God. In this way people are cheated.” (SB 4.19.12 purport)

Hamsadutta doing the rockstar “guru”

“When the devotee has an interest or will different from the interest of the Supreme Lord, his mentality is that of a separatist. When the so-called devotee desires material enjoyment, without reference to the interest of the Supreme Lord, or he wants to become famous or opulent by utilizing the mercy or grace of the Supreme Lord, he is in the mode of passion.” (SB 3.29.9 : PURPORT)

Bhima Prabhu who received thread initiation with both of them, knows more:

“He had never shown any letter from USA and by which of the 11 Rtvik representatives. He did say he communicate with LA but generally if you are not chanting and following the 4 regulative principles and you have never met any devotees in Singapore in your life and your only association was a copy of the BTG In your hand you would not qualify for and without any recommendations from someone who monitors your advancement in Krsna consciousness. You generally do not get initiated immediately.

When I did first asked him this for information he was very vague and refused to say who he wrote to in the USA although he mentioned LA. Now just writing one letter and asking for initiation does not qualify you for initiation.

And the 9th July 1977 authorizing The Rtviks to initiate did not happen until in September when an Indian gentleman from USA approached for initiation and Tamal Krsna asked Srila Prabhupada this question in the conversations book.

So if Sundar Gopal had written to the temple president in LA between September and 14 November two month period I doubt he did received a letter for initiation.

The main reason was that when the letter of 9th July 1977 was signed by Srila Prabhupada and Rameshwara Swami was vested with the tasks to send this signed letter to every temple in the world. He held back from doing so. Which resulted that in his plans for the Zonal Acharya system of initiations. I was in Bhaktivedanta ashram and also London Bury place in 1977 and initiations were put on hold at the time. The sinister GBC’s already had their plans to wait for Srila Prabhupada to leave his body. The Final order was never sent out to every temple. Do you think Rameshwara Swami who was in charged of LA temple as the GBC and BBT Secretary would within that two months send the letter to Sundar Gopal for initiations? And Nalinikanta was never authorized to give Rtvik initiation so if he ever signed such a letter it would have been unauthorised. Which he already wrote and explained.

Sundar Gopal , Gaura Raja ( his brother) and myself received the thread ceremony in the Mayapur Gourpurnima festival in 1979 from Hansadutta Maharaja.

Hansadutta first published these 9th July 1977 document and other letter s from Srila Prabhupada to himself and to Kirtanananda Swami on directions on acting as a Rtvik representative of Srila Prabhupada on initiations. And the final Last Will document in regards to properties. In his magazine ‘Srila Prabhupada His Movement And You ‘in 1993 after I had received in my custody the archives micro films and had them printed from a micro films reader printer machine in Singapore. […]

The letter of 9th July 1977 Final Order document remained unknown until after the BBTI corporation court case began in early 1990 Singapore on myself and after I personally received the full BBT archives micro films of the entire documented library of documents on letters, lectures and conversations.

The initiation SGD received was second initiation in 1979 Mayapur from Hansadutta because he had claimed he had received initiation by letter in late 1977 from Srila Prabhupada.

Also Bhima Prabhu, who worked as Hamsaduttas right wing at fiskcon zonal-acharya era, cannot testifies that Sundar Gopal was initiated by Srila Prabhupada. How can a sincere seeker of the truth even think to accept such selfish rascals as Hamsadutta as good as god!?

Srila Prabhupada: “There are many jealous people in the dress of Vaishnavas in this Krishna Consciousness movement, and they should be completely neglected.

ISKM’s paper “IA77” promotes him as having “spent more than four decades of his life in the sincere service of Srila Prabhupada”. But it was spent supporting the guru hoax and later on to be the “rtvik-representative (acharya)”. So how can that to be seriously be taken at all!? A brahmana must be truthful so his actions should reflect that.

So it’s a fact he served under very poisonous leaders like Hamsadutta and was the servant of Tamal Krishna Goswami for long time as one insider recalls:

“Sundar Gopal was personally recommended for the position of Guru and sanyasi by Tamal Krsna Gosvāmī, in and around the mid 80’s . Soon or immediately there -after he began to act as though he was a guru and sanyasi amongst his following in singapore. After the GBC annual meeting the guru appointment was Not approved. But the GBC sanctions his sanyasi recommendation but it comes with a two year observation and probationary period.

So he’s a probationary sanyasi but at this time he fell down with a married woman who is a chindian by name Chandra Devi. She had come to the temple to pray for her husband who was paralyzed from the neck down the rest of his body ,they had two teenage children. But their love relationship,she became pregnant and she was encouraged to divorced her husband by Sundar Gopal and left the two children to the helpless husbands fate. How cruel and heartless can you get?

When his wife died she was not even an initiated devotee. But he placed her dead body in front of the deities for a grand Puja and had all the devotees present words of glorification of her in front of Guru and Krsna. How sick ?

He’s whole life is spent calling the police or immigration department on any devotees even from the very own Iskcon society and other groups of devotees making sure the sankirtan book distributions , Temple Kirtan, our monthly newsletters and programs in homes and local Indian temples and any or all preaching activities stopped.

He got the BBTI a private corporation within Isk’Con to sue me and the Trustee of the original BBT for publishing and selling original Srila Prabhupada books . He did this by representing them personally in a court case on me in Singapore and later in California USA . (

To make sure we would be penny less and helpless, he encouraged and convinced an Indian Christian person who frequented both our center and his temple ,to set fire on our temple, deities and 10,000 Chinese Bhagavad Gitas in Singapore by convincing him we were completely unbonafide and is cheating the public and are thus big demons.

For years he collected tens of millions of singapore dollars from donations and Iskcon life memberships and book sales and restaurants profits under the banner of Iskcon. When Iskcon GBC asked him to sign the properties business and monies to 3 GBC members for control of the assets he challenged the Iskcon GBC authorities that the society he is heading was never Iskcon society. But a Radha Krishna Mandir ( which he subsequently changed to International Sri Krishna Mandir or ISKM to sound like Iskcon) So they have no jurisdictions at all over his society and that he was a Rtvik society, still think he is qualified to be a self appointed Rtvik representative?” (Note: NO GBC AT ALL)

Sundar Gopal is an unauthorized Rtvik Representative as his worldwide organization ISKM doesn’t have a GBC who supervise and inspires the temples in their devotional life.

In this Video you see clearly he is worshipped as their guru in India. And what is that their chanting “Jay Srila Prabhupada” to him and the shower flower he receives!?

“All these are pitfalls of personal sense gratification. Just to cheat some innocent people, one makes a show of advanced spiritual life and becomes known as a sadhu, mahatma or religious person. All this means that the so-called devotee has become victimized by all these unwanted creepers and that the real creeper of bhakti-lata-bija has been stunted.”  (Madhya 19.160 : PURPORT)

Total obedience to total nonsense is required to become member (Devotees doing Dandavats)

Stunning case of imitating the acharya, Srila Prabhupada

“Bhaktivinoda Thakura says, Kali-cela. He indicates that there are other Vaishnavas, pseudo-Vaishnavas, with tilaka on their nose and kunti beads around their neck. Such a pseudo-Vaishnava associates with money and women and is jealous of successful Vaishnavas. Although passing for a Vaishnava, his only business is earning money in the dress of a Vaishnava”.

(CC.Madhy.,Ch.1, Text 218 / 220, purport)

Sundar Gopal from Singapore



CC Madhya 12.127

ei aparādhe mora kāhāṅ habe gati
tomāra ‘gauḍīyā’ kare eteka phaijati!
ei aparādhe—by such an offense; mora—of Me; kāhāṅ—where; habe—will be; gati—destination; tomāra gauḍīyā—your Bengali Vaiṣṇava; kare—does; eteka—such; phaijati—implication.


“I now do not know what My destination is because of this offense. Indeed, your Bengali Vaiṣṇava has greatly implicated Me.”


It is significant that Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu told Svarūpa Dāmodara Gosvāmī that the Bengali Vaiṣṇava was “your Gauḍīya Vaiṣṇava.” This means that all Gauḍīya Vaiṣṇavas who are followers of the Caitanya cult are subordinate to Svarūpa Dāmodara Gosvāmī. The paramparā system is very strictly observed by Gauḍīya Vaiṣṇavas. Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu’s personal secretary was Svarūpa Dāmodara Gosvāmī. The next group of devotees was the six Gosvāmīs, then Kavirāja Gosvāmī. It is necessary to observe the paramparā system of the Caitanya cult. There are many offenses one can commit while serving the Lord, and these are described in the Bhakti-rasāmṛta-sindhu, Hari-bhakti-vilāsa and other books. According to the rules and regulations, NO ONE SHOULD ACCEPT OBEISANCES in the temple of the Lord BEFORE THE DEITY. NOR IS IT PROPER for a devotee TO OFFER OBEISANCES and TOUCH the FEET of the SPIRITUAL MASTER before the Deity. This is considered an OFFENSE. SRI CAITANYA MAHĀPRABHU HIMSELF WAS PERSONALLY THE SUPREME PERSONALITY OF GODHEAD; therefore IT WAS NOT ACTUALLY OFFENSIVE to WASH HIS LOTUS FEET in the temple. However, because HE WAS PLAYING the PART OF an ĀCĀRYA, THE LORD CONSIDERED HIMSELF AN ORDINARY HUMAN BEING. HE also WANTED to GIVE INSTRUCTIONS to ORDINARY HUMAN BEINGS. The point is that even though one plays the part of a spiritual master, he SHOULD NOT ACCEPT OBEISANCES or PERMIT A DISCIPLE TO WASH HIS FEET before the Deity. This is a matter of etiquette.

Here we see that Sundar Gopala is accepting obeisances before the Deity.

Also ISKM is introducing a new initiation method, but how can he (Sundar Gopala) dare to introduce any new methods as he is not authorized to do such?

Formal initiation with fire sacrifice through Skype!?
“One thing I received one letter from Gurukula regarding the Krsna Bowl contests, and I want you to know that nothing new should be added. Whatever I have introduced should remain. Nothing new should be added. New things means their brain is not clear. Carefully manage things what I have established.”

Letter to Rupanuga — Vrindaban 4 September, 1974


ताननादृत्य योऽविद्वानर्थानारभते स्वयम् ।
तस्य व्यभिचरन्त्यर्था आरब्धाश्च पुनः पुनः ॥५॥
tān anādṛtya yo ‘vidvān
arthān ārabhate svayam
tasya vyabhicaranty arthā
ārabdhāś ca punaḥ punaḥ

tān—those; anādṛtya—neglecting; yaḥ—anyone who; avidvān—rascal; arthān—schemes; ārabhate—begins; svayam—personally; tasya—his; vyabhicaranti—do not become successful; arthāḥ—purposes; ārabdhāḥ—attempted; ca—and; punaḥ punaḥ—again and again.


A foolish person who manufactures his own ways and means through mental speculation and does not recognize the authority of the sages who lay down unimpeachable directions is simply unsuccessful again and again in his attempts.


At the present moment it has become fashionable to disobey the unimpeachable directions given by the ācāryas and liberated souls of the past. Presently people are so fallen that they cannot distinguish between a liberated soul and a conditioned soul. A conditioned soul is hampered by four defects: he is sure to commit mistakes, he is sure to become illusioned, he has a tendency to cheat others, and his senses are imperfect. Consequently we have to take direction from liberated persons. This Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement directly receives instructions from the Supreme Personality of Godhead via persons who are strictly following His instructions. Although a follower may not be a liberated person, if he follows the supreme, liberated Personality of Godhead, his actions are naturally liberated from the contamination of the material nature. Lord Caitanya therefore says: “By My order you may become a spiritual master.” One can immediately become a spiritual master by having full faith in the transcendental words of the Supreme Personality of Godhead and by following His instructions. Materialistic men are not interested in taking directions from a liberated person, but they are very much interested in their own concocted ideas, which make them repeatedly fail in their attempts. Because the entire world is now following the imperfect directions of conditioned souls, humanity is completely bewildered.

Next “rtvik-acharya” accepting guru worship … (bathing feet with flowers)

Also Sundar Gopal is accepting worship that actually is only meant for Srila Prabhupada, as He Is the REAL ACHARYA OF THE GAUDIYA VAISHNAVA SAMPRADAYA.

We should object a so-called brahmana and not giving respect by drinking his bathing water, Prabhupada basically says:

“The followers of the Lord must be prepared to offer brāhmaṇas all due respect. But preachers of Lord Caitanya’s cult OBJECT if SOMEONE PRESENTS HIMSELF AS A BRAHMANA WITHOUT HAVING THE NECESSARY QUALIFICATIONS. The followers of Lord Caitanya CANNOT BLINDLY ACCEPT that everyone born in a brāhmaṇa family is a brāhmaṇa. THEREFORE ONE SHOULD NOT INDISCRIMINATELY FOLLOW the Lord’s example of showing respect to brāhmaṇas BY DRINKING WATER THAT HAS WASHED THEIR FEET. Gradually the brāhmaṇa families have become degraded because of the contamination of Kali-yuga. Thus THEY MISGUIDE PEOPLE by EXPLOITING their sentiments.”


One Prabhu from China shares his experiences:

”In the past, I saw in iskcon that the devotes were drinking their guru’s bathing water. Now, most of those devotees have given up Krishna consciousness. Giridari’s disciples. Those devotes are disciples of Giridari Mahārāja. Some even eat meat.“

CC Ādi 17.244

caraṇera dhūli sei laya vāra vāra
dekhiyā prabhura duḥkha ha-ila apāra

caraṇera—of His lotus feet; dhūli—the dust; sei—that woman; laya—takes; vāravāra—again and again; dekhiyā—seeing this; prabhura—of the Lord; duḥkha—unhappiness; haila—there was; apāra—unlimited.


As she took the dust of His lotus feet again and again, the Lord became unlimitedly unhappy.


This holding of a great personality’s lotus feet is certainly very good for the person who takes the dust, but this example of Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu’s unhappiness indicates that a Vaiṣṇava should not allow anyone to take dust from his feet. 

One who takes the dust of a great personality’s lotus feet transfers his sinful activities to that great personality. Unless the person whose dust is taken is very strong, he must suffer the sinful activities of the person who takes the dust. Therefore ordinarily it should not be allowed. Sometimes in big meetings people come to take the same advantage by touching our feet. On account of this, sometimes we have to suffer from some disease. As far as possible, no outsider should be allowed to touch one’s feet to take dust from them. Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu personally showed this by His example, as explained in the next verse.

Srila Prabhupada, as a great devotee of the Lord exhibited all good qualities of a Vaishnava but he didn’t allow to be touched many times by his own disciples. As preacher He shows the perfect example to be followed. So why is doing ISKM big propaganda now for touching the feet!?

CC Ādi 17.245

sei-kṣaṇe dhāñā prabhu gaṅgāte paḍila
nityānanda-haridāsa dhari’ uṭhāila

seikṣaṇe—immediately; dhāñā—running; prabhu—the Lord; gaṅgāte—in the water of the Ganges; paḍila—plunged; nityānanda—Lord Nityānanda; haridāsa—Haridāsa Ṭhākura; dhari’—catching Him; uṭhāila—raised Him.


Immediately He ran to the river Ganges and jumped in to counteract the sinful activities of that woman. Lord Nityānanda and Haridāsa Ṭhākura caught Him and raised Him from the river.


Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu is God Himself, but He was playing the part of a preacher. Every preacher should know that being allowed to touch a Vaiṣṇava’s feet and take dust may be good for the person who takes it, but it is not good for the person who allows it to be taken. As far as possible, this practice should ordinarily be avoided. Only initiated disciples should be allowed to take this advantage, not others. Those who are full of sinful activities should generally be avoided.


So why let Sundar Gopal to be touched by the woman … we are being initiated by Prabhupada Himself, so we should try to catch his mercy by following Him. We can then bathe  Prabhupada through His murti as He is manifest in that form.

A Vyasasana can be accepted by someone who is free of the four vices, but is Sundar Gopal on the transcendental platform, acting as a pure devotee?

Vyāsa-pūjā… This āsana where they have seated me, it is called vyāsāsana. The guru is the representative of Vyāsadeva. Every one of you have heard the name of Vyāsadeva, Veda-vyāsa. So anyone who represents the great ācārya, Vyāsadeva, he is allowed to sit on the vyāsāsana.So Vyāsa-pūjā… Guru is representative of Vyāsadeva, therefore his birthday anniversary is accepted as Vyāsa-pūjā.

Prabhupāda: Vyāsāsana means… Vyāsa means guru, because he is our original guru. When spiritual master’s birthday is observed, it is called Vyāsa-pūjā. This Vyāsa-pūjā means a spiritual master is representative of Vyāsa. Just like we are teaching this bhāgavat-dharma, the Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam, we are following the footsteps of Vyāsadeva. So actually the preacher’s seat is Vyāsadeva’s āsana. 

It is the seat of Vyāsa. Just like in the high court the seat, the seat of judgment, or…, what is called? That seat, nobody else can sit there, in that seat. Only the high-court judge, representative of king or giving law to the citizens, he can sit down. Similarly, the vyāsāsana is occupied by the representative of Vyāsadeva, who can speak on behalf of Vyāsadeva. This is the system. 

[…] So Sūta Gosvāmī was offered the seat of vyāsāsana because he was aware of these things, Itihāsa, history; Purāṇas, still older history; dharma-śāstra, the scriptures; everything. Therefore he is first of all addressing that “You have read. Not only have read, but you have described.”

Description means you read something; unless you fully assimilate, understand, you cannot describe it. The two things. Simply reading will not help us. When we shall be able to preach the reading matter, doesn’t matter whether in the same language or in my own language; it doesn’t matter. That is wanted. Ākhyātāny adhītāni. Adhītāni means, “You have read and you have explained.”

The Vyasasanas are getting bigger … is he now the “acharya”!?

SB 1.1.5

त एकदा तु मुनयः प्रातर्हुतहुताग्नयः ।
सत्कृतं सूतमासीनं पप्रच्छुरिदमादरात् ॥५॥
ta ekadā tu munayaḥ
prātar huta-hutāgnayaḥ
sat-kṛtaṁ sūtam āsīnaṁ
papracchur idam ādarāt

te—the sages; ekadā—one day; tu—but; munayaḥ—sages; prātaḥ—morning; huta—burning; hutaagnayaḥ—the sacrificial fire; satkṛtam—due respects; sūtam—Śrī Sūta Gosvāmī; āsīnam—seated on; papracchuḥ—made inquiries; idam—on this (as follows); ādarāt—with due regards.


One day, after finishing their morning duties by burning a sacrificial fire and offering a seat of esteem to Śrīla Sūta Gosvāmī, the great sages made inquiries, with great respect, about the following matters.


Morning is the best time to hold spiritual services. The great sages offered the speaker of the Bhāgavatam an elevated seat of respect called the vyāsāsana, or the seat of Śrī Vyāsadeva. Śrī Vyāsadeva is the original spiritual preceptor for all men. And all other preceptors are considered to be his representatives. A representative is one who can exactly present the viewpoint of Śrī Vyāsadeva. Śrī Vyāsadeva impregnated the message of Bhāgavatam unto Śrīla Śukadeva Gosvāmī, and Śrī Sūta Gosvāmī heard it from him (Śrī Śukadeva Gosvāmī). All bona fide representatives of Śrī Vyāsadeva in the chain of disciplic succession are to be understood to be gosvāmīs. These gosvāmīs restrain all their senses, and they stick to the path made by the previous ācāryas. The gosvāmīs do not deliver lectures on the Bhāgavatam capriciously. Rather, they execute their services most carefully, following their predecessors who delivered the spiritual message unbroken to them.

Those who listen to the Bhāgavatam may put questions to the speaker in order to elicit the clear meaning, but this should not be done in a challenging spirit. One must submit questions with a great regard for the speaker and the subject matter. This is also the way recommended in Bhagavad-gītā. One must learn the transcendental subject by submissive aural reception from the right sources. Therefore these sages addressed the speaker Sūta Gosvāmī with great respect.

SB 1.1.6

ऋषय ऊचुः
त्वया खलु पुराणानि सेतिहासानि चानघ ।
आख्यातान्यप्यधीतानि धर्मशास्त्राणि यान्युत ॥६॥
ṛṣaya ūcuḥ
tvayā khalu purāṇāni
setihāsāni cānagha
ākhyātāny apy adhītāni
dharma-śāstrāṇi yāny uta

ṛṣayaḥ—the sages; ūcuḥ—said; tvayā—by you; khalu—undoubtedly; purāṇāni—the supplements to the Vedas with illustrative narrations; saitihāsāni—along with the histories; ca—and; anagha—freed from all vices; ākhyātāni—explained; api—although; adhītāni—well read; dharmaśāstrāṇi—scriptures giving right directions to progressive life; yāni—all these; uta—said.


The sages said: Respected Sūta Gosvāmī, you are completely free from all vice. You are well versed in all the scriptures famous for religious life, and in the Purāṇas and the histories as well, for you have gone through them under proper guidance and have also explained them.


A gosvāmī, or the bona fide representative of Śrī Vyāsadeva, must be free from all kinds of vices. The four major vices of Kali-yuga are (1) illicit connection with women, (2) animal slaughter, (3) intoxication, (4) speculative gambling of all sorts. A gosvāmī must be free from all these vices before he can dare sit on the vyāsāsana. No one should be allowed to sit on the vyāsāsana who is not spotless in character and who is not freed from the above-mentioned vices. He not only should be freed from all such vices, but must also be well versed in all revealed scriptures or in the Vedas. The Purāṇas are also parts of the Vedas. And histories like the Mahābhārata or Rāmāyaṇa are also parts of the Vedas. The ācārya or the gosvāmī must be well acquainted with all these literatures. To hear and explain them is more important than reading them. One can assimilate the knowledge of the revealed scriptures only by hearing and explaining. Hearing is called śravaṇa, and explaining is called kīrtana. The two processes of śravaṇa and kīrtana are of primary importance to progressive spiritual life. Only one who has properly grasped the transcendental knowledge from the right source by submissive hearing can properly explain the subject.

SB 1.1.7

यानि वेदविदां श्रेष्ठो भगवान्बादरायणः ।
अन्ये च मुनयः सूत परावरविदो विदुः ॥७॥
yāni veda-vidāṁ śreṣṭho
bhagavān bādarāyaṇaḥ
anye ca munayaḥ sūta
parāvara-vido viduḥ

yāni—all that; vedavidām—scholars of the Vedas; śreṣṭhaḥ—seniormost; bhagavān—incarnation of Godhead; bādarāyaṇaḥ—Vyāsadeva; anye—others; ca—and; munayaḥ—the sages; sūta—O Sūta Gosvāmī; parāvaravidaḥ—amongst the learned scholars, one who is conversant with physical and metaphysical knowledge; viduḥ—one who knows.


Being the eldest learned Vedāntist, O Sūta Gosvāmī, you are acquainted with the knowledge of Vyāsadeva, who is the incarnation of Godhead, and you also know other sages who are fully versed in all kinds of physical and metaphysical knowledge.


Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam is a natural commentation on the Brahma-sūtra, or the Bādarāyaṇi Vedānta-sūtras. It is called natural because Vyāsadeva is author of both the Vedānta-sūtras and Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam, or the essence of all Vedic literatures. Besides Vyāsadeva, there are other sages who are the authors of six different philosophical systems, namely Gautama, Kaṇāda, Kapila, Patañjali, Jaimini and Aṣṭāvakra. Theism is explained completely in the Vedānta-sūtra, whereas in other systems of philosophical speculations, practically no mention is given to the ultimate cause of all causes. One can sit on the vyāsāsana only after being conversant in all systems of philosophy so that one can present fully the theistic views of the Bhāgavatam in defiance of all other systems. Śrīla Sūta Gosvāmī was the proper teacher, and therefore the sages at Naimiṣāraṇya elevated him to the vyāsāsana. Śrīla Vyāsadeva is designated herein as the Personality of Godhead because he is the authorized empowered incarnation.

Sri Hari Prabhu playing Karatals in the front

Crazy fellows living in their temples

“Temples and monasteries should be constructed for the preaching of spiritual consciousness or Kṛṣṇa consciousness, not to provide free hotels for persons who are useful for neither material nor spiritual purposes. Temples and monasteries should be strictly off limits to worthless clubs of crazy men. In the Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement we welcome everyone who agrees at least to follow the movement’s regulative principles—no illicit sex, no intoxication, no meat-eating and no gambling. In the temples and monasteries, gatherings of unnecessary, rejected, lazy fellows should be strictly disallowed. The temples and monasteries should be used exclusively by devotees who are serious about spiritual advancement in Kṛṣṇa consciousness. Śrīla Viśvanātha Cakravartī Ṭhākura explains the word ārambhān as meaning maṭhādi-vyāpārān, which means “attempts to construct temples and monasteries.” The first business of the sannyāsī is to preach Kṛṣṇa consciousness, but if, by the grace of Kṛṣṇa, facilities are available, then he may construct temples and monasteries to give shelter to the serious students of Kṛṣṇa consciousness. Otherwise such temples and monasteries are not needed.”

ISKM has many temples and followers but they let live crazy people in their buildings. Sri Hari is one example, he lived for sometime in the Singapore temple, later on in SKM Hungary where he lived for short and left after doing some crazy things.

That’s the thing why Sundar Gopal and others got afraid of him as he has this panic attacks. They were sending videos of him through WhatsApp where u see Sri Hari Dāsa getting wild like a furious cat and everyone was talking about it.

In Singapore he even slept on a park bench! Crazy… he told me crazy things, too.

Normally the police will arrest these kind of people and jailing them forever in a mental hospital. That is the law in Singapore.

He was not chanting 16 rounds and he told also others didn’t finished their rounds. He’s chanting 4 rounds (that was 1 year before) and he told me the pujari also didn’t chant …

One morning he told me that they were using the eleven Canto of Srimad Bhagavatam (Hrdayananda Goswami & others translated it without any authorization) and couldn’t really believe … that they r lecturing from it.

So they really getting brainwashed in ISKM with believing that the changed books ARE TO BELIEVED!

Since last years summer Sri Hari is getting really crazy as he seemed to have got digest some nasty drugs…

He wanted actually returning to ISKM Hungary where he preached in the summer and before at 2018 but he’s actually still in medical treatment as he’s mentally deranged …

Srila Prabhupada – The real representative of Srila Vyasadeva

2 thoughts on “ISKM is expanding in deviations

  1. ISKM Sundar Gopal scored big in his last visit in INDIA grabbing and convincing a former Madhu Bandit big time collector from Bangalore “Nadiya dasa” to come to Singapore ISKM.
    Even Madhu Bandit best friend “Tattva darshan dasa_ (Google this name)
    tried to recruit Nadiya for his scams to help him get richer on his BEV eco “impersonal yogi” farm in Udupi district.
    Nadiya was Mandu Bandit biggest collector for over 10 years, until he got busted for stealing lakhs from Madhu Bandit rich donors and hooking up with a beautiful Indian women who convince him to give the stolen money to her to help them both start a business, love struck Nadiya found out the woman scammed him.
    Madhu Bandit file a criminal case against Nadiya and kicked him out of the Bangalore grfoup of opulent temples. Since that experience, Sundar Gopal took Nadiya to Singapore to collect money for him from the Hindus in Singapore, so true….birds of the same feather flopped together…..

  2. Sundar Gopal is a coward. When his was a young man, he was drafted into the Singapore Armed Forces (SAF) compulsory, by law. Initially he got vegetarian food. But later the SAF insisted on giving him non-veg.
    Both Sundar Gopal (SD) and his son protested, giving the genuine reason that the son, being the Temple Priest, must remain a vegetarian. But SAF refused to budge. So SD launched a campaign to garner public support from people, not only from locals but also from overseas. When the support gained huge momentum, SAF got alarmed. The SAF used stooges in the Hindu Advisory Board to say that Hindu Priests are only trained in India. That wasn’t a fact, and SD’s supporters grew in number. So SAF threatened to jail the son if SD did not withdraw and cancel the petition, even though his son was prepared to continue fasting. Instead of being proud of his son’s determination, the coward SD fell for SAF’s cruel threats and closed the petition..
    It matters not how the whole issue culminated. But it shows clearly what a cheap fear-struck coward SD had proved to be . ALL our Vedic Scriptures boldly declare that vaishnavas do not fear even FEAR itself !

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