“One should also not accumulate money to become puffed up in the material world. One should earn his livelihood easily and honestly, for it is better to become a coolie for an honest livelihood than to become a great man in society by hook and crook. There is no harm if one becomes the richest man in the world by honest dealings, but one should not sacrifice the honest means of livelihood simply to accumulate wealth. Such an endeavor is harmful to devotional service. One should not talk nonsense. A devotee’s business is to earn the favor of the Lord.“
True Face of Sundar Gopal Dāsa
Sundar Gopal is the founder of ISKM (International Sri Krishna Mandir) and claims to be a rtvik representative with siksa guru-function. But what if it’s true if he wasn’t initiated and given beads through Prabhupadas instructions!? Indeed there is a lot of information who tells a different story of becoming an ISKCON devotee …
This is the letter that ISKM devotees are claiming to be his first initiation letter, given him proper initiation by Srila Prabhupada. But why he stayed and served under first-class deviants for so many years like Hansadutta and Tamal Krishna Swami!? This will be addressed later, first let see if the letter can be verified as true.
Let’s hear from Nalinīkānta Prabhu, who is mentioned in the letter to be the writer:
“I have written several people on this matter. It was more than 40 years ago. I cannot attest to the fact that page 1 of that letter was written by me. The signature on page 2 is mine, but I was not in India in 1977 so the rest of it sounds suspicious. I certainly, as a typist at the BTG, was not authorized to write Srila Prabhupada and recommend anyone for initiation.“
So that’s really let question the authenticity of the letter. In the bio of Sundar Gopal aka Govindasamy Sundar it is claimed:
“Very soon, he received a letter from a devotee named Nalinīkānta Prabhu asking him if he would like to take initiation from Śrīla Prabhupāda. He along with his younger brother replied in the affirmative and in the January of 1977, they were initiated by Śrīla Prabhupāda who was in India at that time. The beads and initiated name were sent by post to Sundar Gopāl Prabhu. He never met Śrīla Prabhupāda but was initiated by him.”
But Nalinikantha Prabhu says he wasn’t in India at all at that time! Also it’s not verified by him that the letter was written by him, only the signature is not fake for sure.
The letter is also not verified by sources like Vedabase and online sources from ISKCON but u find references that they preached (foreign ISKCON devotees) in the 70s in Singapore to the general public, distributing books in masses.
If you look up Srila Prabhupada’s original notebooks of his initiated disciples you will also not find a reference that he has received initiation from India in January 1977:
Also what is striking is that his karmi name is not correctly mentioned as the same with his brother as it is Govindasamy Sundar. The letter has also more faults like only addressing Sundar Gopal without his brother”Dear Sundaraji …” and no date mentioned at all. So it seems the author of the letter is Sundar Gopala himself!
“The word pakhanda used in this verse is sometimes pronounced pasanda. Both of these words indicate an imposter who presents himself as a very religious person but in actuality is sinful. Indra took up the saffron-colored dress as a way of cheating others. This saffron dress has been misused by many imposters who present themselves as liberated persons or incarnations of God. In this way people are cheated.” (SB 4.19.12 purport)
“When the devotee has an interest or will different from the interest of the Supreme Lord, his mentality is that of a separatist. When the so-called devotee desires material enjoyment, without reference to the interest of the Supreme Lord, or he wants to become famous or opulent by utilizing the mercy or grace of the Supreme Lord, he is in the mode of passion.” (SB 3.29.9 : PURPORT)
Bhima Prabhu who received thread initiation with both of them, knows more:
“He had never shown any letter from USA and by which of the 11 Rtvik representatives. He did say he communicate with LA but generally if you are not chanting and following the 4 regulative principles and you have never met any devotees in Singapore in your life and your only association was a copy of the BTG In your hand you would not qualify for and without any recommendations from someone who monitors your advancement in Krsna consciousness. You generally do not get initiated immediately.
When I did first asked him this for information he was very vague and refused to say who he wrote to in the USA although he mentioned LA. Now just writing one letter and asking for initiation does not qualify you for initiation.
And the 9th July 1977 authorizing The Rtviks to initiate did not happen until in September when an Indian gentleman from USA approached for initiation and Tamal Krsna asked Srila Prabhupada this question in the conversations book.
So if Sundar Gopal had written to the temple president in LA between September and 14 November two month period I doubt he did received a letter for initiation.
The main reason was that when the letter of 9th July 1977 was signed by Srila Prabhupada and Rameshwara Swami was vested with the tasks to send this signed letter to every temple in the world. He held back from doing so. Which resulted that in his plans for the Zonal Acharya system of initiations. I was in Bhaktivedanta ashram and also London Bury place in 1977 and initiations were put on hold at the time. The sinister GBC’s already had their plans to wait for Srila Prabhupada to leave his body. The Final order was never sent out to every temple. Do you think Rameshwara Swami who was in charged of LA temple as the GBC and BBT Secretary would within that two months send the letter to Sundar Gopal for initiations? And Nalinikanta was never authorized to give Rtvik initiation so if he ever signed such a letter it would have been unauthorised. Which he already wrote and explained.
Sundar Gopal , Gaura Raja ( his brother) and myself received the thread ceremony in the Mayapur Gourpurnima festival in 1979 from Hansadutta Maharaja.
Hansadutta first published these 9th July 1977 document and other letter s from Srila Prabhupada to himself and to Kirtanananda Swami on directions on acting as a Rtvik representative of Srila Prabhupada on initiations. And the final Last Will document in regards to properties. In his magazine ‘Srila Prabhupada His Movement And You ‘in 1993 after I had received in my custody the archives micro films and had them printed from a micro films reader printer machine in Singapore. […]
The letter of 9th July 1977 Final Order document remained unknown until after the BBTI corporation court case began in early 1990 Singapore on myself and after I personally received the full BBT archives micro films of the entire documented library of documents on letters, lectures and conversations.
The initiation SGD received was second initiation in 1979 Mayapur from Hansadutta because he had claimed he had received initiation by letter in late 1977 from Srila Prabhupada.“
Also Bhima Prabhu, who worked as Hamsaduttas right wing at fiskcon zonal-acharya era, cannot testifies that Sundar Gopal was initiated by Srila Prabhupada. How can a sincere seeker of the truth even think to accept such selfish rascals as Hamsadutta as good as god!?
Srila Prabhupada: “There are many jealous people in the dress of Vaishnavas in this Krishna Consciousness movement, and they should be completely neglected.
ISKM’s paper “IA77” promotes him as having “spent more than four decades of his life in the sincere service of Srila Prabhupada”. But it was spent supporting the guru hoax and later on to be the “rtvik-representative (acharya)”. So how can that to be seriously be taken at all!? A brahmana must be truthful so his actions should reflect that.
So it’s a fact he served under very poisonous leaders like Hamsadutta and was the servant of Tamal Krishna Goswami for long time as one insider recalls:
“Sundar Gopal was personally recommended for the position of Guru and sanyasi by Tamal Krsna Gosvāmī, in and around the mid 80’s . Soon or immediately there -after he began to act as though he was a guru and sanyasi amongst his following in singapore. After the GBC annual meeting the guru appointment was Not approved. But the GBC sanctions his sanyasi recommendation but it comes with a two year observation and probationary period.
So he’s a probationary sanyasi but at this time he fell down with a married woman who is a chindian by name Chandra Devi. She had come to the temple to pray for her husband who was paralyzed from the neck down the rest of his body ,they had two teenage children. But their love relationship,she became pregnant and she was encouraged to divorced her husband by Sundar Gopal and left the two children to the helpless husbands fate. How cruel and heartless can you get?
When his wife died she was not even an initiated devotee. But he placed her dead body in front of the deities for a grand Puja and had all the devotees present words of glorification of her in front of Guru and Krsna. How sick ?
He’s whole life is spent calling the police or immigration department on any devotees even from the very own Iskcon society and other groups of devotees making sure the sankirtan book distributions , Temple Kirtan, our monthly newsletters and programs in homes and local Indian temples and any or all preaching activities stopped.
He got the BBTI a private corporation within Isk’Con to sue me and the Trustee of the original BBT for publishing and selling original Srila Prabhupada books . He did this by representing them personally in a court case on me in Singapore and later in California USA . (http://harekrishnamalaysia.com/KRSNAinsight/2017/06/01/apology-from-smara-hari/)
To make sure we would be penny less and helpless, he encouraged and convinced an Indian Christian person who frequented both our center and his temple ,to set fire on our temple, deities and 10,000 Chinese Bhagavad Gitas in Singapore by convincing him we were completely unbonafide and is cheating the public and are thus big demons.
For years he collected tens of millions of singapore dollars from donations and Iskcon life memberships and book sales and restaurants profits under the banner of Iskcon. When Iskcon GBC asked him to sign the properties business and monies to 3 GBC members for control of the assets he challenged the Iskcon GBC authorities that the society he is heading was never Iskcon society. But a Radha Krishna Mandir ( which he subsequently changed to International Sri Krishna Mandir or ISKM to sound like Iskcon) So they have no jurisdictions at all over his society and that he was a Rtvik society, still think he is qualified to be a self appointed Rtvik representative?” (Note: NO GBC AT ALL)
Sundar Gopal is an unauthorized Rtvik Representative as his worldwide organization ISKM doesn’t have a GBC who supervise and inspires the temples in their devotional life.
In this Video you see clearly he is worshipped as their guru in India. And what is that their chanting “Jay Srila Prabhupada” to him and the shower flower he receives!?
“All these are pitfalls of personal sense gratification. Just to cheat some innocent people, one makes a show of advanced spiritual life and becomes known as a sadhu, mahatma or religious person. All this means that the so-called devotee has become victimized by all these unwanted creepers and that the real creeper of bhakti-lata-bija has been stunted.” (Madhya 19.160 : PURPORT)
Stunning case of imitating the acharya, Srila Prabhupada
“Bhaktivinoda Thakura says, Kali-cela. He indicates that there are other Vaishnavas, pseudo-Vaishnavas, with tilaka on their nose and kunti beads around their neck. Such a pseudo-Vaishnava associates with money and women and is jealous of successful Vaishnavas. Although passing for a Vaishnava, his only business is earning money in the dress of a Vaishnava”.
(CC.Madhy.,Ch.1, Text 218 / 220, purport)
WHY ONE SHOULD NOT ACCEPT WASHING OR OBEISANCES BEFORE THE DEITY
CC Madhya 12.127
ei aparādhe mora kāhāṅ habe gati
tomāra ‘gauḍīyā’ kare eteka phaijati!
ei aparādhe—by such an offense; mora—of Me; kāhāṅ—where; habe—will be; gati—destination; tomāra gauḍīyā—your Bengali Vaiṣṇava; kare—does; eteka—such; phaijati—implication.
“I now do not know what My destination is because of this offense. Indeed, your Bengali Vaiṣṇava has greatly implicated Me.”
It is significant that Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu told Svarūpa Dāmodara Gosvāmī that the Bengali Vaiṣṇava was “your Gauḍīya Vaiṣṇava.” This means that all Gauḍīya Vaiṣṇavas who are followers of the Caitanya cult are subordinate to Svarūpa Dāmodara Gosvāmī. The paramparā system is very strictly observed by Gauḍīya Vaiṣṇavas. Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu’s personal secretary was Svarūpa Dāmodara Gosvāmī. The next group of devotees was the six Gosvāmīs, then Kavirāja Gosvāmī. It is necessary to observe the paramparā system of the Caitanya cult. There are many offenses one can commit while serving the Lord, and these are described in the Bhakti-rasāmṛta-sindhu, Hari-bhakti-vilāsa and other books. According to the rules and regulations, NO ONE SHOULD ACCEPT OBEISANCES in the temple of the Lord BEFORE THE DEITY. NOR IS IT PROPER for a devotee TO OFFER OBEISANCES and TOUCH the FEET of the SPIRITUAL MASTER before the Deity. This is considered an OFFENSE. SRI CAITANYA MAHĀPRABHU HIMSELF WAS PERSONALLY THE SUPREME PERSONALITY OF GODHEAD; therefore IT WAS NOT ACTUALLY OFFENSIVE to WASH HIS LOTUS FEET in the temple. However, because HE WAS PLAYING the PART OF an ĀCĀRYA, THE LORD CONSIDERED HIMSELF AN ORDINARY HUMAN BEING. HE also WANTED to GIVE INSTRUCTIONS to ORDINARY HUMAN BEINGS. The point is that even though one plays the part of a spiritual master, he SHOULD NOT ACCEPT OBEISANCES or PERMIT A DISCIPLE TO WASH HIS FEET before the Deity. This is a matter of etiquette.
Here we see that Sundar Gopala is accepting obeisances before the Deity.
Also ISKM is introducing a new initiation method, but how can he (Sundar Gopala) dare to introduce any new methods as he is not authorized to do such?
We should object a so-called brahmana and not giving respect by drinking his bathing water, Prabhupada basically says:
“The followers of the Lord must be prepared to offer brāhmaṇas all due respect. But preachers of Lord Caitanya’s cult OBJECT if SOMEONE PRESENTS HIMSELF AS A BRAHMANA WITHOUT HAVING THE NECESSARY QUALIFICATIONS. The followers of Lord Caitanya CANNOT BLINDLY ACCEPT that everyone born in a brāhmaṇa family is a brāhmaṇa. THEREFORE ONE SHOULD NOT INDISCRIMINATELY FOLLOW the Lord’s example of showing respect to brāhmaṇas BY DRINKING WATER THAT HAS WASHED THEIR FEET. Gradually the brāhmaṇa families have become degraded because of the contamination of Kali-yuga. Thus THEY MISGUIDE PEOPLE by EXPLOITING their sentiments.”
WARNING: POSSIBLE RESULTS FROM DRINKING SUCH WATER
One Prabhu from China shares his experiences:
”In the past, I saw in iskcon that the devotes were drinking their guru’s bathing water. Now, most of those devotees have given up Krishna consciousness. Giridari’s disciples. Those devotes are disciples of Giridari Mahārāja. Some even eat meat.“
CC Ādi 17.244
Vyāsa-pūjā… This āsana where they have seated me, it is called vyāsāsana. The guru is the representative of Vyāsadeva. Every one of you have heard the name of Vyāsadeva, Veda-vyāsa. So anyone who represents the great ācārya, Vyāsadeva, he is allowed to sit on the vyāsāsana.So Vyāsa-pūjā… Guru is representative of Vyāsadeva, therefore his birthday anniversary is accepted as Vyāsa-pūjā.
Crazy fellows living in their temples
ISKM has many temples and followers but they let live crazy people in their buildings. Sri Hari is one example, he lived for sometime in the Singapore temple, later on in SKM Hungary where he lived for short and left after doing some crazy things.
That’s the thing why Sundar Gopal and others got afraid of him as he has this panic attacks. They were sending videos of him through WhatsApp where u see Sri Hari Dāsa getting wild like a furious cat and everyone was talking about it.
In Singapore he even slept on a park bench! Crazy… he told me crazy things, too.
Normally the police will arrest these kind of people and jailing them forever in a mental hospital. That is the law in Singapore.
He was not chanting 16 rounds and he told also others didn’t finished their rounds. He’s chanting 4 rounds (that was 1 year before) and he told me the pujari also didn’t chant …
One morning he told me that they were using the eleven Canto of Srimad Bhagavatam (Hrdayananda Goswami & others translated it without any authorization) and couldn’t really believe … that they r lecturing from it.
So they really getting brainwashed in ISKM with believing that the changed books ARE TO BELIEVED!
Since last years summer Sri Hari is getting really crazy as he seemed to have got digest some nasty drugs…
He wanted actually returning to ISKM Hungary where he preached in the summer and before at 2018 but he’s actually still in medical treatment as he’s mentally deranged …